McCain loses. Why? He didn’t talk of the real problem and let Bush/Republicans get bashed in the process. Talk about Fannie/Freddie. Talk about easy credit insisted upon by Congress. What is the matter with him?
Now he’s onto pork. That’s not the problem right this second.
McCain is doing well on the tax thought.
Obama seems to think ‘businesses’ like GE and Ford are the standard business form. Small business is more common.
Ooh – McCain finally got tough on pork with the energy bill. He’s starting to point fingers which needs to be done.
What do these guys have to give up for rescue?
Obama doesn’t know. No clue what the budget is going to look like but he lists a bunch of programs anyway. College, science, health care, infrastructure, broadband, electricity, alternative energy.
McCain would cut spending. Examine all agencies. No more ethanol subsidies YAY! Defense spending which is out of control. Fixed cost contract in defense.
Mentions what he fixed and that he knows how. Doesn’t mention what’s stopped him in the last years.
Obama blames lobbyiest for writing the prescription drug bill and we need to get rid of them…but that is actually working!
McCain….spending freeze. Exceptions: defense, veterans. Pushes more energy in the line of nuclear and off shore, connecting this with sending money overseas right now. Good move. OOH, he brings up working with Hillary.
Obama….wants more early childhood education, save on medicare and Iraq.
McCain doesn’t want to hand health care over to the federal govt. Give it to families. Good, straight forward.
Maybe McCain isn’t doing so bad after all.
Q3 – Lessons of Iraq
McCain learned them.
Obama stood up and protested in one speech 6 years ago when he had no influence. Al-Qaeda is stronger since 2001?? In what universe?
Obama admits that Petraeus and our troops did brilliantly.
Slam!! “Obama doesn’t know the difference between a tactic and a strategy.”
Brings up the cut off of funds vote.
16months we should “reduce our combat troops”. A far cry from everyone home Obama!
Obama is sounding very defensive here.
Moving to Afghanistan:
Obama wants a “surge” in Afghanistan. ? Of NATO or the US?
-press Afghan govt
-deal with the poppy trade
-deal with Pakistan
McCain says he wouldn’t “threaten” Pakistan like Obama would with his cutoff of aid and threatening of strikes.
McCain is GOOD on foreign affairs.
McCain is cleaning Obama’s clock on the “big picture”.
Good point by McCain. If Iraq fails there will be an effect on Afghanistan. True, so true.
Q4 – Threat from Iran.
McCain sees a threat to Israel and the region (everyone will want one). McCain mentions his ‘League of Democracies’. Certainly a better idea than the UN. The idea being to use actual sanctions. No word on how you get France to not backdoor deal things. Points out that Obama didn’t want to vote to say that the Republican Guard is a terrorist organization.
Obama says that “he’s said significantly” that the Guard is a threat. Blames Iraq situation for strengthening Iran. Won’t tolerate a nuclear Iran. What’s he going to do? Tougher sanctions but wants cooperation with China and Russia. He’s also use tough direct diplomacy. Oooh – I thought he had backed down out of that.
Obama going on about negotiations and axis of evil. What exactly did the Clinton/N Korea agreement do? Says Kissinger said that President should meet directly with these evil presidents.
McCain – Mentions that he doesn’t have a seal yet, but that Kissinger never said that the President should sit. YAY mentions the Albright visit to N Korea.
Q5 Russia – How do you see the relationship?
Obama – Entire Russian approach to be re-evaluated. [I’m pretty sure McCain wouldn’t have to re-evaluate] Affirm all the fledgling Democracies. (including the Poles. Are they fledgling?)
McCain – Obama didn’t originally understand who Russia was to start with. McCain sees that the Georgia/Russia has to do with energy/oil. Obama never mentioned it. Point to McCain. and he pronounced the President’s name in Georgia nicely.
McCain has traveled to a lot of places. He keeps saying “I went there”. Good for him. He notes that the Russian’s have not lived up to their agreements. McCain “sounds” good on this issue.
Obama: “What he said.” “Ooh and I called for a billion dollars to send to Georgia”
By the way. Alternative energy will save these situations. We need to send money on this.
McCain: Moves on to energy. Off Shore and Nuclear.
The Lugar situation. McCain supported Lugar back in the 90s concerning nuclear fuel. Obama and Lugar had some weird deal there. i forget what it is.
Q6 – Likliehood of another 911 type attack on the US
McCain: Brings up the 911 bipartisan commission that the administration opposed. McCain passed it and he’s proud of it. Most of the reforms recommended are there.
Obama: says we have a long way to go. We haven’t done enough with transit/ports. Biggest threat is a suitcase. Hmmmmm? Wants more money for nuclear proliferation. I must have heard that wrong. Go to root cause of Afghanistan/Pakistan. What about all those educated jihadists in Germany?
“We’re less respected in the world now than then”. (not sure when)
McCain continues to talk to Obama like he’s a kid. Obama still “doesn’t understand” how defeat in Iraq will affect everything.
Obama thinks that 100% of resources have gone to Iraq. ?? I think Bush mulitasks actually. China is in all places we are not. We’re weakened because of Iraq. Because we view everything through the single lens of Iraq. Hmmmm. Doesn’t he sound like someone who’s looking at everything through the lens of Iraq? He even brings up funding for health care.
“No one’s talking about losing this war”. Um – he was.
McCain: Doesn’t believe that Obama has enough knowledge to run this country. We’ve seen the stubborness before with Bush and notes that Obama won’t acknowledge that he was wrong on things. Good point.
McCain points out that Veterans know that he’ll take care of them. Plus he has the ability/judgement/knowledge. No on the job training needed.
Obama: Back to our uninspiring reputation. Our job is to “send a message” to the world. This is in response to McCain’s dis on Foreign affairs? What a goof. Please don’t make him President!
McCain can heal the wounds of war and can deal with foreign affairs.
HAH – Obama’s last words were on the “sending a message to the world”.
ROUNDUP: McCain I think clearly won this one noting that Obama “still doesn’t understand”.
Obama said tons of “me too” and “I get the European vote” “McCain is just like Bush” – sounds like sound bit.
McCain sounded Presidential,
Obama sounded like a Democrat, only a naive Democrat. McCain didn’t slam Obama on a ton of points I would have touched on. Obama looked very defensive to me. And he got crankly while McCain didn’t.
McCain’s mention of this economic bailout would be the end of the beginning was a smart realistic thing to say. Americans need to be ready and he treated us like adults. Whereas Obama treated us like people he can’t convince.