Day after ‘the Debate’

Tons out there and I’m sure you’ve been searching.

I just want to note a few things and I know I’m biased and wanted Palin to do well and have been cringing over her interviews. [though as an aside I heard her on Hugh Hewitt and she came across great so I knew it was in her]

1- many of the opinions this morning seem to have been written before the debate with some specifics inserted later.
ie Editorial in the NYTimes:

Ms. Palin had to do little more than say one or two sensible things and avoid an election-defining gaffe.

By that standard, but only by that standard, the governor of Alaska did well. But Ms. Palin never really got beyond her talking points in 90 minutes, mostly repeating clichés and tired attack lines and energetically refusing to answer far too many questions.

She did better than that. And while there were lowered expectations, standards for her have been high.

ie Mark Pitzke of Der Spiegel who thought that Palin called Ifill (and he mentions that Ifill is a black woman) lame for bring up the ‘what does the VP do” line.

Only once was Palin’s tone off-mark. That was when she snubbed the moderator Gwen Ifill, a famous African-American television journalist, criticizing “her lame attempt at a joke” that “nobody got it.” The audience looked shocked: For just a moment they had a glimpse of what was behind the carefully maintained mask.

HUH??? Palin said this was her very own attempt at a lame joke. And what the hell mask are you talking about Mark? It’s like you looked high and low to find racism and when you didn’t you just inserted it.

2. Palin did a better job at a) being relaxed b) being funny c) connecting with people outside the beltway d) being positive e) being confident. ie While Biden stumbled around on same sex marriage, Palin said what she believed. Palin gave both her and Biden a little joke on themselves in regards to their VP definitions. On global warming, Palin just flat out stated what she believe unapologetically. (Biden did too)

3. Palin did better at engaging the audience and talking towards Biden. Yes she looked at her notes a lot but that just tells me she wasn’t making up numbers while Biden struck me as someone who can “quote on his feet”.

4. Biden did fine. He’s likable, he’s serious, he’s “presidential”, he’s definitely real. It was cool though, to see a woman get up there and be the woman she is. Quirky, friendly, womanly and not be apologetic about it or try to act manly and “presidential”. I don’t doubt that she’s tough and it was enjoyable to watch a tough woman also be a woman.

David Brooks
Charles Hurt
The Anchoress has a ton of links.

Enjoy!
UPDATE: Palen changed to Palin and Iliff changed to Ifill! Thanks coastwatcher. (hitherforward to be known as blogwordwatcher)

2 thoughts on “Day after ‘the Debate’

  1. >>HUH??? Palin said this was her very own attempt at a lame joke. And what the hell mask are you talking about Mark? It’s like you looked high and low to find racism and when you didn’t you just inserted it.<<

    Uh, hello….. why don’t you read this passage from the debate transcript, especially the SECOND use of “lame” by Palin? If she’s not talking directly to Ifill, then to whom???

    IFILL: ….We’re going to move on to the next question. Governor, you said in July that someone would have to explain to you exactly what it is the vice president does every day. You, senator, said you would not be vice president under any circumstances. Now maybe this was just what was going on at the time. But tell us now, looking forward, what it is you think the vice presidency is worth now.

    PALIN: In my comment there, it was a lame attempt at a joke and yours was a lame attempt at a joke, too, I guess, because nobody got it. Of course we know what a vice president does.

  2. Uh – hello back at you.
    Why don’t you look at the debate.
    Palin had turned to Biden and was speaking directly to him about HI lame attempt.

    Joe laughed. He got it.

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