If I were a famous terrorist, I would have read the papers over the last few years and I would be wondering what on earth will be used as they (my captors) continue to “hope”.
“My guess is that he will have a good deal to tell us about what has been going on in Libya and a significant amount of information to tell us about what al-Qaeda has been up to between 2001 and the present,” said Daniel Benjamin, who recently stepped down as the State Department’s coordinator for counterterrorism and is a foreign policy expert at Dartmouth College. “Possibly that will help us identify priorities and decide who else needs to be paid attention to.”
But then again being “kept at sea” appears to be a euphemism for something a little less nice….hmmmmmmmm Obama=Bush without any of the basic integrity, good nature, or intelligence?
“He and others who found safe haven in the chaos that is now Libya are of great and growing concern to us,” said Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), a senior member of the House Intelligence Committee. “The hope is that he will not only shed light on the historic actions of the core of al-Qaeda, but can also provide actionable intelligence about Libya and surrounding countries.”
Schiff said that even if Ruqai were to be kept at sea for several weeks while intelligence officials attempt to debrief him, a prolonged detention is unlikely to weaken the pending criminal case against him, because government officials handling his interrogation would be “walled off” from the prosecution.
“I think both interests can be balanced,” the congressman said.
and don’t look behind the curtain of this column either until the government decides:
Boston bombers: FBI hunting 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
21 Apr 2013 00:01
Police believe the pair were specially trained to carry out the devastating attack
Maybe you all should just go back to bed for awhile until we get to the point of
What difference does it make
if there were no protests in Benghazi?
Because unless Boston supports some sort of agenda, I’m pretty sure that’s where we’ll end up. fyi
Because we can…..
sayeth the govt.
The American Civil Liberties Union on Monday night called the document a “profoundly disturbing” summary of “a stunning overreach of executive authority — the claimed power to declare Americans a threat and kill them far from a recognized battlefield and without any judicial involvement before or after the fact.”
Thank you Breitbart
On Friday morning, an Iraqi refugee used an improvised explosive device (IED) to bomb a Social Security office in Casa Grande AZ — the mainstream media remains silent.
The explosion took place before the office opened for the morning, so one was hurt. But reports indicate the explosion “was heard and felt all over the area.”
The suspect in the bombing, Abdullatif Aldosary is an Iraqi refugee who lives in Coolidge, AZ. He is in police custody.
The FBI….toughest men and women in America. They work with ‘just the facts’ and they take down bad guys as they come.
The FBI in San Diego had been investigating al-Awlaki, a former San Diego resident, for his possible connections to the 9/11 hijackers. When agents saw emails between Hasan and al-Awlaki, they asked the FBI’s Washington office to talk to Hasan’s bosses, according to a government official briefed on the findings who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the Webster report. But the Washington agents thought that interviewing American Muslims who visit extremist websites was a sensitive issue and did not reach out to Hasan’s bosses at the Defense Department, the official said.
Maybe I just don’t have enough dependents. It seems to me that tough guys should be the ones speaking up.
Wow – Apparently the dots WERE connected. Just a bit too slowly to stop Abdulmutallab from getting on board the plan. Instead border officials had plans to question him AFTER the plane landed in Detroit.
Reporting from Washington – U.S. border security officials learned of the alleged extremist links of the suspect in the Christmas Day jetliner bombing attempt as he was airborne from Amsterdam to Detroit and had decided to question him when he landed, officials disclosed Wednesday.
The new information shows that border enforcement officials discovered the suspected extremist ties involving the Nigerian, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, in a database despite intelligence failures that have been criticized by President Obama.
“The people in Detroit were prepared to look at him in secondary inspection,” a senior law enforcement official said. “The decision had been made. The [database] had picked up the State Department concern about this guy — that this guy may have been involved with extremist elements in Yemen.”
Back to you Amsterdam.
In other news, for your entertainment, read this interview from DerSpiegel with Bruce Hoffman, terrorism expert.
Bruce Hoffman is a professor at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C., and is one of United States’ foremost experts on terrorism. He worked for years on counterterrorism issues at the RAND Corporation think tank and served as a scholar in residence at the Central Intelligence Agency. An updated version of his seminal book, “Inside Terrorism,” was published by the Columbia University Press in the US in 2006 and by S. Fischer Verlag in Germany.
After suggesting that a) al-Qaeda is getting stronger based on all the varieties of threats faced now (loners, sleeper cells, American sleepers) and b) that these small attacks are distractions from something bigger in the pipe he says……get this:
SPIEGEL ONLINE: What needs to be done now?
Hoffman: We finally have to take the terrorism threat seriously. We need a flexible response that looks at lone individuals but also larger organizations — and a system that looks more specifically at certain risks.
Yes, now might be a good time.
This other answer to a question gave me pause too:
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Obama said he would “not tolerate” intelligence failures. Will we see heads rolling in his staff?
Hoffman: No heads rolled after 9/11. Much more important than finger-pointing is an effort to figure out where the system broke down. For instance, the newly designed counter-terrorism center seemed to be working well but now it turns out the analysts there were not able to connect the dots after the warning about the Nigerian airline terrorist. These are issues we need to examine.
Even terrorist “experts” are going to deflect to Bush on every answer.
(a very rambling post)
Obama stated the obvious last night and then went on and did nothing:
“This was not a failure to collect intelligence,” Obama said after meeting with senior national security and intelligence officials, “it was a failure to integrate and understand the intelligence that we already had. . . . That’s not acceptable, and I will not tolerate it.”
By not tolerating it, does he mean he’ll remove the XTRA layer of bureaucracy created to “integrate and understand” intelligence given to it by the intelligence agencies? Nope.
How about firing anyone who didn’t do their job? Nope.
Will he work on finding where the system broke down? I don’t see how if “he will not tolerate” the fingerpointing.
Here’s what he’s going to do:
including expansion of the U.S. “no-fly” list to include people with Abdulmutallab’s profile; [Nigerian man with no luggage paying cash for a one way ticket to Detroit]
Frankly I would have thought this was already part of the screening.
enhanced screening for anyone flying to the United States from an expanded list of “countries of interest”;
additional screening and security on all domestic or U.S.-bound international flights;
Because patting down my legs is going to let you know what I have in my crotch, right?
an automatic check of terrorism suspects to determine whether they possess valid U.S. visas.
This one is my favorite. Read it again. An automatic check of terrorists suspects!! Yes, that will help.
I’m thinking maybe we ought to have an automatic check of any skinny passengers taller than 6feet who’s address is a cave in Pakistan too. Just to be on the safe side.
Obama included in his speech this brand new fact concerning Guantanamo and it’s affect on terrorism:
“In fact,” he added, “that [GITMO] was an explicit rationale for the formation of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.”
Wow – and here the old facts say that al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula existed by 2003.
Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula first came to prominence in Saudi Arabia in May 2003, when it claimed responsibility for simultaneous suicide bombing attacks on three Western housing compounds in Riyadh , which left 29 dead.
Two other things. I finally found a reasonable person quoted in the paper concerning this. Bob Ayers, former intelligence official.
Bob Ayers, a former US intelligence officer, said Obama’s announcement was an attempt to “correct the perception that he’s being soft on national security”.
“It provides him with an opportunity to demonstrate that he’s concerned and he’s tough and he’s going to do something about this problem,” Ayers told Al Jazeera.
But Ayers also warned against blaming the incident solely on the failure of the US intelligence process.
“The man still had to go through a security checkpoint. He was allowed on to an aircraft at his point of debarkation without even having a passport.
“That’s not an intelligence failure, that’s an airport security failure.”
That it is, that it is. And Mr. Obama, I don’t think you have a ton of control over airport security around the world.
You do however have control over your own agencies. That being the case, maybe you might want to rethink using them to spy for global warmist scientists. Maybe?
The nation’s top scientists and spies are collaborating on an effort to use the federal government’s intelligence assets — including spy satellites and other classified sensors — to assess the hidden complexities of environmental change.
Read the story….it’s not that easy to follow. Yes, of course the spy images would be helpful to collect data on changes in climate. No shit. So? Send your own satellites up then. Instead 60 scientists will have secret clearance. So does that mean they can study the images, but not publish??
Another point the story makes is that this will cost the CIA $0. Yet somehow 500 agents will be useful to science.
Scientists, Dr. Untersteiner said, “have no way to send out 500 people” across the top of the world to match the intelligence gains, adding that the new understandings might one day result in ice forecasts.
If the information is available, then make it available to everyone.
If it’s secret, then keep the damn stuff secret.
How is having intelligence agencies working with a limited number of scientists going to be free, or even fair. It’s like the public option in health care. The government gets the upper hand. Scientists with access get to do the better science because they get the information. The rest of you clowns, nyet.
I feel like I’m in the twilight zone here.
ps – Jordan is having a hard time accepting that our bomber in Afghanistan was Jordanian.
Government officials on Tuesday said there was no proof that the suicide bomber who killed eight people at a US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) base in Afghanistan was a Jordanian.
However, a senior government official acknowledged yesterday that 32-year-old Humam Khalil Abu Mulal Al Balawi, whom international media reports pointed to as the perpetrator of the attack, was a Jordanian doctor who had supplied security agencies with information about terrorists targeting Jordan’s security.
And Thomas Friedman makes sense today. That’s nice. Someone needs to today!
Instead of columnists deciding that “the terrorists have won”, I think they’ve only won when they get to crawl out of their caves, plan their next bit of “fun” in an office and live off of their own innovative ideas vs the benevolence of others.
Sorry Mr. Peters, but yes, we are a trusting and open society. People who see that often want to join it. Others want to kill it. That doesn’t make them the winner. We can do better, of course.
Sorry Mr. Levine, just because terrorists and your whiney ass ways have caused us to spend a lot of money, you still haven’t won. And no it isn’t the poverty that causes jihadist to wage war. It’s that a) they want a total Muslim society and b) we are a whole lot easier to fight than their own corrupt, torturous, governments.
If the mainstream press, and with it no doubt the Obama administration, are unwilling to recognise the inextricable ties between oppression, poverty, corruption and violence by governments like Nigeria and Yemen, and the rise of religiously grounded extremism and violence there, then its increasing foot- or boot-print there will strengthen rather than weaken al-Qaeda and similar movements.
And I guess I need to say it again……until the TSA starts hiring for common sense and culling those without a sense of responsibility and just sense, I guess we DO need these “rules” for how to treat passengers. That is the shame of our educational system and big organizations with multiple people on the same line.
Either way – the terrorists haven’t “won”. We’re still standing. A lot of us are still flying. We can’t get lazy. And the terrorists haven’t “won” just because we need to remain aware.