From Fred Bauer of the National Review, arguing my point! (though with eloquence and no spitting)
As they currently exist, guest-worker programs tend to be a species of crony capitalism in their creation of a caste of workers without full access to the free market. One of the defining features of a guest worker is that she cannot bargain for her labor with the same flexibility and freedom of a legal permanent resident or a U.S. citizen. This disadvantage distorts the free market and undermines the position of the average worker. Guest-worker programs allow the rich and connected to pit worker against worker in order to have an economic race to the bottom.
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While the news of yet another surge of illegal immigrants with the rumors of amnesty going around, I would make one recommendation for total complete no holds barred for a certain section of the world population.
Christians stuck in pits like Pakistan.
PAKISTAN: A Christian couple’s legs broken, and burnt alive on fabricated charges of blasphemy by a Kiln Owner
ASIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION — URGENT APPEALS PROGRAMME, November 5, 2014
Urgent Appeal Case: AHRC-UAC-147-2014
The Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) has received information about a horrifying incident of a Christian couple being burnt alive on charges of Blasphemy in Pakistan’s Punjab Province. According to information, the couples’ legs have been broken so that they cannot escape the burning. The young Christian couple has been severely beaten and were both thrown into burning kiln by an enraged mob of about 2000 to 3000. This large mob had been instigated by the owner of a kiln in Kasur District in the Punjab Province, where the Provincial Government permits any person, especially organized mobs to do as they please, with impunity to those religious minorities such as Christians, Ahmadi’s etc. This incident too has taken place with full police presence and connivance.
The incident had taken place at the time the couple had met the kiln owner to demand arrears in payments due to them – dues that amounted to about Rupees 500,000 for work done for over a period of several months. The kiln owner had charged them instead with blasphemy and instigated the mobs to break their legs and burn them alive, on allegations that the couple burnt pages from the Holy Quran.
I don’t know what the “rule” should be to prove you’re a Christian but being one should not subject you to death by mob in any civilized country. God be with their souls.
This is the most bogus line I’ve heard in a long time.
Chamber of Commerce CEO Tom Donohue says in an op-ed that the U.S. needs more low-skill immigration because Americans are not “qualified” or “willing” to do such work.
So low-skill jobs now require qualification?
So your pay scale of very low that no American wants to work for is the only side of the capitalist equation that should function?
(As demand grows so should the price – yet here we are_
And if we didn’t pay out unemployment benefits for years, then people without jobs might then be taking these jobs.
And finally – what on earth makes you think that immigrants will continue to work low skill jobs once they can come out from the shadows?
I swear, the whole immigration thing is
1) we really need to keep the status quo
2) the status quo makes it seem like we don’t care
3) let’s finish this so we can start round three of amnesty/illegals and get back to 1.
They think it will keep them “viable”, but I’m with Instapundit here.
Actually, I don’t think they can remain viable if they do. It’s (another) big push in the direction of a massive base-walkaway from the GOP, and quite possibly the formation of a third party.
Micky Kaus of the Daily Caller has the story.
Nice of the Tsarnaev’s to give people a whole different perspective on the issue of even legal immigration.
The Tsarnaev family, including the suspected terrorists and their parents, benefited from more than $100,000 in taxpayer-funded assistance — a bonanza ranging from cash and food stamps to Section 8 housing from 2002 to 2012, the Herald has learned.
[ht Maggie’s farm]
To have a bipartisan group of Senators that includes Marco Rubio AND Michael Bennet preempt Obama.
Not only that, but with a halfway decent proposal. My only fault with the big line items is that I would not create a second class of “worker people” unless that was the choice of the potential immigrants.
4. Establish an improved process for admitting future workers to serve our nation’s workforce needs, while simultaneously protecting all workers.
How do ICE agents who listened to their bosses orders to delay the arrest of an illegal sex offender look at themselves in the mirror?
Isn’t a job with a local police department without all the politics a better option?
According to those documents, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in Newark had arranged to arrest Sanchez at the local prosecutor’s office on Oct. 25. That was fewer than two weeks before the election.
Noting that Sanchez was a volunteer in Menendez’s Senate office, ICE officials in New Jersey advised that the arrest “had the possibility of garnering significant congressional and media interest” and were “advised to postpone the arrest” until officials in Washington gave approval. The documents describe a conference call between officials Washington and New Jersey to “determine a way forward, given the potential sensitivities surrounding the case.”
The senators, in a letter to the Homeland Security Department, said the agency documents showed that Sanchez’s arrest “was delayed by six weeks,” as AP had reported. They asked for details about the department’s review of potentially sensitive, high profile immigration cases when arrests are delayed.
In a letter Monday, Assistant DHS Secretary Nelson Peacock said an allegation that the government delayed Sanchez’s arrest “for political purposes” was categorically false.
So yesterday Mitch McConnell continued with his great big ideas out of the GOP by suggesting that odds are against repealing Obamacare.
“If you thought it was a good idea for the federal government to go in this direction, I’d say the odds are still on your side,” McConnell said. “Because it’s a lot harder to undo something than it is to stop it in the first place.”
True that, but you’re sounding a little defeatist there. Which puts me in mind of border control.
The GOP doesn’t really want border control because in reality illegal aliens are helpful to the economy. Whenever they discuss cracking open the borders a little more and lightening up the immigration process, it’s all about educated immigrants who will enhance the republic. The uneducated are not included in ideas for increased immigration as they could potentially be a drain on the system.
But…..these uneducated illegal immigrants are needed/wanted for the economy. Hence the GOP just talks around the edges and nothing is done.
The GOP believes in personal responsibility. The mandate, mandates personal responsibility so in reality it’s a good thing. It was just the opportune subject to help fight Obamacare because tea partiers suggested it just might be unconstitutional to require a private citizen to buy something from another private citizen. Now that it’s enacted and passed through the Supreme Court, you bet your tushy that Republicans will let it stay. Hospitals are required to treat so people are required to pay…but since people don’t pay they’ll now be required to pay through insurance.
I have my doubts that repeal will happen with ease and am only hoping that Obama is voted out so that the Supreme Court at least has a chance to not turn so far left that we no longer recognize this country. But yes, each passing year sees the slipping away of the original ideals.
Sadly Victor Davis Hanson is not all that cheery either. I understand.
UPDATE: Keith Hennessey has a good column in the WSJ today that notes what I’m trying to say here [ht jg]:
Once the individual mandate is repealed, these popular insurance changes cannot stand by themselves. Without the mandate, people have every incentive to save on premiums and not buy insurance until they fall ill. This will send premiums through the roof for healthy people and, if the government clamps down on increased premiums, destroy private insurance companies. Those Republicans who say they favor legislated guaranteed-issue and community-rating requirements but oppose the mandate will be forced to acknowledge that all three must go.
You’ll note that he too has good ideas for reform unlike Mitch McConnell did on Sunday.
Per Obama, his decision on illegals who arrived before the age of 16, are under the age of 30, have been in the United States for five years, have no criminal record, and attend high school or college or be a military veteran is the “right thing to do”.
I don’t disagree, but for whom is it the “right thing to do”? He keeps setting up all of these new rules but they hardly ever seem fair to me.
I’m 31, came here when I was 5 and this doesn’t apply?
I’m 18, came here when I was 16 and this doesn’t apply?
I’m 21 and a citizen and can’t get a job….how is this right for me?
I’m the employee of 20 of these folks and paying them the prevailing wage, when they all quit because there are now better opportunities….is this right for me?
I’m the one who’s been waiting in line at the immigration office for 4 years to get into the US legally. I don’t really have skills, but can contribute. Is this right for me?
Obama has no idea how things work in the real world. These 1 million people can now come out from under the shadows….and maybe this is a good, for them. But they will no longer need to be yard crews, or vegetable pickers or dish washers. So we’ll need a whole new crew willing to work in the shadows and suddenly there is even more competition for that job opening at the factory.
Luckily Mexico’s economy is doing better, yet still I suspect there will be plenty of folks who think “5 years?….I can hide for 5 years until junior can become legal there….it will certainly be better than dealing with the cartel situation here!”. And we’re back to square 1.
I’ll say it again.
There is a line of folks wanting to be here in the US. Give these people who were dragged here as young people a pass towards the beginning of that line, but don’t skip the whole thing.
And change the requirements, but keep the dang line. Those who have patiently waited have been screwed again.
UPDATE: Hey someone agrees with me!!! Thank you SooperMexican for writing this post. It’s must clarer than all of mine.
For first time since Depression, more Mexicans leave U.S. than enter
Mexicans come to this country illegally for work and the wages that work earns. During hard times, there is less work and many will go home. Others won’t because this country is their home. This is no surprise.
So where does a statement like this come from? Bold is mine.
“I think the massive boom in Mexican immigration is over and I don’t think it will ever return to the numbers we saw in the 1990s and 2000s,” said Douglas Massey, a professor of sociology and public affairs at Princeton University and co-director of the Mexican Migration Project, which has been gathering data on the subject for 30 years.
In 1986 Reagan signed the amnesty bill giving amnesty to illegals already living here. What happened then is more people arrived illegally and have awaited a 2nd amnesty. doh.
So if the economy improves and there is more work…..(or if the industry of agriculture is no longer able to use their 17 year old kids as free labor so there are a LOT more cheap jobs available), and if more talks get going about another amnesty bill, then Mexicans will most definitely return en masse illegally.
Professor Massey doesn’t even bother discussing the economy in Mexico. If it improves to a great extent, then that would be a reason the mass illegal immigration would not occur again.
It’s as if people think the world is a static place now that they are in it.