So last night, I’m out with friends who we’ll describe as left, but very smart. People who “care” and so are left. We don’t talk politics.
Hence I was caught off guard when the conversation moved from
a) one person’s father who is incredibly obese and does nothing to protect his health and how could she talk to him about it again during an upcoming visit when none of her other talks over the years have done any good
b) another person’s baby niece who’s had 3 heart surgeries since birth, spent 6 months in the hospital and who’s total bill at this point due to PA covering big ticket items like this is around $15,000
c) Universal health care
These are personal loving stories. Is this where I jump in with my own thoughts on coverage? (government catastrophic care for all-maybe incentivize the buying of coverage yourself and staying healthy=avg price of a house, open borders in insurance sales, medical lawsuit reform, continued tax incentives for charities willing to help out.
Nah, I didn’t. So a bit guilty at this point for not standing up…..but in the meantime I thought of a good argument that could get under a lefties’ skin. One person had mentioned universal health care because the government being so big could negotiate prices. Yet, one reason Walmart is despised due to these exact practices. They order stuff from manufacturers, get them to build up their infrastructure to keep up, then demand X price. Their cheap prices run other stores out of business and they then have the monopoly. Is that what good people want to see of the government?
The thing about resolutions, is you can resolve to start again. Right now. Perhaps I’d have been tougher without the margarita on board.
UPDATE: Fyi, the technology fumble of Obamacare is recognized by these folks, but they figure it will straighten itself out in time. AND that universal coverage would have been the better route to take.
Ah screw it….do what you want. Just be sure to fill out all the paperwork in triplicate on our “secure” website. And buy one of these items that we say you can.
Yes, last week you couldn’t buy that item for $200/month and you were stuck with an increase of 400%. Too bad, so sad. If you had waited, you could have bought that insurance we’re always badmouthing that actually acts like insurance. Just says that “it’s a hardship” and we’ll cover you. Just like if you want subsidies, just say you only make x amount of money. Oh and if you’re an insurance company, you can basically do what you want to do too. Keep policies, cancel policies, offer cheap policies….don’t worry, you won’t get in trouble. Trust us. Oh – and ps – if someone doesn’t pay you by your due date, go ahead and cover them anyway. If it costs you a million or so, don’t worry – we’ll cover it because well, with all these healthy people signing up there will be lots of money. Trust me.
Take it away Ace of Spades:
Does Obama really think that insurance companies can write these policies, advertise them, get sign-ups and get a first payment in 11 days?
I believe he doesn’t believe that.
None of these fixes are designed to be fixes. They’re designed to appear to be fixes, so when people are uninsured, Obama can say, “I tried. I gave them options.”
Just never the option of what he promised: Of keeping health insurance they liked.
Basically, this means they’ve expanded the definition of “hardship” to include “screwed by the Obamacare regulations.” Come to think of it, that makes sense.
Or rather, “we’re screwed because you people keep complaining, so because of that you can claim hardship”. Squeaky wheel and all.
Suggestion for the GOP.
Start a bill. This one says “the insurance market is open and they can provide whatever type of insurance they want. And you are free to buy or not buy whatever type of insurance you want and your state can require or not require what they want and we, the Federal Government are stepping aside”
Apparently the cancellation of plans, good plans, was to get healthy people into the exchanges.
I thought it was all about the cancellation of inadequate plans. Still so naive after all these years.
I got this wrong too Mr. Coyote Blog. If the insurance is going to be “better”, then wouldn’t that mean more coverage and lower deductibles?
And wouldn’t you rather pay for your own birth control, as needed, than need to pay the first $4000 for cancer?
But then again – Obama said that preventative birth control would be “free of charge” without copay.
We don’t know what’s going to happen until it’s in force.
By the way, there is a certain schizophrenia here that is entirely political: These new policies have a $10,000 deductible, but they pay 100% for condoms? They may well be creating a combination of catastrophic insurance and pre-paid medical care that has the worst of both approaches.
Politicians lie. But what is it about this administration that lies in ways that are inevitably going to be discovered, in just a few months? Can they really be so focused on getting through each individual news cycle that this kind of behavior makes sense?
$1 billion dollars would have been saved, the website would have actually functioned (not Obamacare, but the website) and IBM would have been so crucial to government that it never would have layoffs again.
Instead Obama wanted to do it himself?
500 million lines of code and a president who’s favorite thing to do is “decree” a change.
Good luck with that. This is a big clip, but read the whole thing because he also shares some stories that show he understands how Obama could have “not known” about the whole fiasco October 1.
Going back to the development of IBM’s System/360 operation system, as described in Fred Brooks’ classic book, The Mythical Man-Month, the average programmer on the project wrote six lines of code per day. Of course, every programmer writes a lot more than that on SOME days, but on other days he writes zero lines of code, since he’s doing testing or debugging or rewriting or documenting. So for System/360, it all averaged out to six lines per day per programmer.
So let’s say that the Obamacare programmers were much better than that, and wrote 100 lines of code per day average. Let’s say that there were 1000 programmers. And let’s say that, over the three year period, there were about 660 business days. Then, with those generous assumptions, you get 100*1000*660 = 66,000,000 lines of code. It’s simply impossible to reach 500,000,000.
And yet, the 500 million figure is apparently true. I’ve heard it dozens of times in the last month, and no one is denying it. Healthcare.gov apparently really does have 500 million lines of code. How is that possible?
I get a picture in my mind of 1,000 people sitting a computers typing code, without worrying about whether or not it works. Given the size of the catastrophe, some variation of that must have happened.
More important than that, a code base that size is unsupportable. Health services is a rapidly changing field, and every time there’s some kind of process or rule change, it will take an army of programmers to make all the necessary changes in the code base. And that assumes that all the bugs have been fixed, which is far from true. Healthcare.gov will not be fully functional at any time in the foreseeable future, if ever.
Add to that today’s sympathetic NYTimes story on the debacle where no one in the White House noticed there was a “real” problem until mid October. Apparently they were far too busy not talking with Republicans about postponing the law a year which, in the end,
wcould have saved Obama’s keister. [I'm not saying it would have, as I suspect, they would not have used that extra year wisely lest any word leak out that the website was not ready for public consumption earlier.]
My very own Congressman questioning a Mr. Chao, a CMS Tech officer.
The scuttlebutt and the reason Hot Air has this link is to note that 60-70% of the backend of Obamacare has yet to be built.
My personal favorite part however is at about 4:15 when Congressman Gardner asks Mr. Chao how the systems will be tested, once that backend IS completed.
Answer: “In the same exact manner we tested everything else”
Oh my word!!! ROFL
“In the same exact manner we tested everything else”
Next question – “Do you really think that’s the best idea?”
This post by NeoNeocon is brilliant. Why? Because, agreeing with me, she connect the two subjects of Obamacare and Hondurus.
A lot of people in this country gave Obama the benefit of the doubt, over and over and over. Hondurus did it for me and that was in July of 2009. (I take that back…..that’s when I decided he was no constitutionalist. His bailouts turned me into a TeaPartier earlier that spring) [ps - I have a category for Hondurus if you care to review all the posts on the subject]
Anyway NeoNeocon notes something similar. Starting off over her concern that the debacle of Obamacare will not really cause people to kill liberalism.
Am I being too pessimistic here, or am I just being a realist about people? I honestly don’t know, but I do know we need to remain alert, press any advantages with vigor and intelligence, and not relax and think the fight is anywhere near over. But at least Obamacare has gotten the attention of more people than have the previous acts/omissions of this administration that should have gotten a lot more people incensed but did not.
You know what these acts/omissions are; I probably don’t have to list them. But one of the very first—one that most people don’t even remember—was Honduras, a crisis that occurred in June of 2009, only a few months after Obama took office. I wrote many many posts about Honduras at the time, because it seemed an extremely important indicator of where Obama stood on the issue of tyranny and power-grabs by an executive—and let’s just say it wasn’t on the right (correct) side.
And yet the MSM covered for him and twisted what was happening into something that sounded almost like the opposite, which was an even more alarming indicator of where they stood. From that point on, there wasn’t much question that Obama was intent on the tyranny path himself, and that the media would for the most part give him a free pass, a scout, and several guides along the way.
I was not reading NeoNeocon regularly at the time so I didn’t realize she had so many posts. She copies her first one at the link.
So Oprah believes that Obama (and herself) is treated with contempt because he (and she) are black.
I’m curious what is their excuse for treating me with contempt? i.e. She thinks I’m a racist and he thinks I don’t believe in the rule of law and so would be perfectly happy keeping my own insurance even though the law hasn’t changed simply because he says he won’t prosecute!
I follow the laws I know about. I’m one of them “good citizens” you hear of. So Oprah – why do you and Obama treat me with such contempt? Is it because I’m white? Or “right”? Or middle American? or what?
UPDATE: Insty notes the blurring of lines between “black” and “effed up”